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Von: Jeff
Gesendet: 27 November 2007 02:07
An: Nick; Steven
Betreff: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

Ads of the World: Rolling Stone Hip-Hop

Ads of the World: Rolling Stone Metal

From: Steven
Date: 11/26/07
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

really well done I must admit, granted I would disagree with some of the classifications ( STP in Grunge??? ) but apart from that, damn.


From: Jeff
Date: Nov 27, 2007 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

Nick made a mention of how the hip-hop chart could be re-worked in
terms of timeline as well.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 12:49 AM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

yeah the more I look at them, especially the hip hop one, the more skewed
they are.
But then Rolling Stone are a little of the political and intellectual chart
anyways. Creem, they are not.


From: Jeff
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

Why you up so late? You in the USA?


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:14 AM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

na just got up really early ( 5am ) for some stupid reason, and it’s safer
to get out of bed than to lie there and wake the wife up at that time.
believe you me!


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

I listened to “South of Heaven” on the way to give a few lectures at the university of maryland about the development of hip-hop scholarship from 1983 to the present yesterday. Might have been an odd choice of soundtrack on the way to such an event, but there is one key thread in that… Rick Rubin (listening to “South of Heaven” from a production standpoint, Rick leaves a lot to be desired in my mind… but that is another issue all together). That all being said, I thought about these two flow charts last night, with Rubin on the brain, and was thinking it would be cool to have one that just stemmed from him melding all the music he touched into an interesting document of american muiscal history.

I think the tag lines are cool, but yes the timelines are skewed in RS work. I believe Austin Scaggs, son of Boz Scaggs, is an editor there. Austin is the best high school basketball player I have ever seen.

Enough of that ramble.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 7:42 AM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

you know, I always thought South of Heaven was crap, I never liked that album. I really think Rubin got “amazing” when he started working with Johnny Cash, as a producer, not just as a Muse as with RHCP, you know?


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

My brother just became irrate when I suggested the song itself sounded
like complete shit on record. South Of Heaven was his go to song when
people asked him to play guitar as a kid. Imagine the suprise of well
to do folks thinking they would get something standard and then having
a 4 foot nothing 9 year old blast that out. One of my favorite
memories.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

Ha; i think I would have paid to have seen that!

Anybody for the new Sonic Youth album?


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

I need something to get out the hip-hop mire… which plays a little
into my listening to slayer yesterday. I tried to branch out by
playing unsigned british soul in the office today. Interested response
from my co-workers, who are all bothered by my distinct dislike of Jay
Z and Kanye. Bashing Jay is my favorite past time when in the Words
Beats Life offices. I also spend a considerable amount of time weaning
our young DJs (aged 10 and 12) off of Soulja Boy.

I am also up for a new Deltron album, and have been told it is happening.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:20 PM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

I would recommend getting on a plane to London, head to the best record shop
in the world ( Honest Johns ) and getting yourself a lifetime supply of
their tunes. Never fails. Obviously, we just need to rob a bank or
something.


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

I argue that Jazz Record Mart in Chicago is the best. Hahaha. I can’t
leave there in less than 3 hours and a few hundred poorer. I’ll be
back in London in January. Will hit Honest Johns for sure. There can
always be two best.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:26 PM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

well I think we agree on one best per country?


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

And also for genre. There is a really old man in Madison Wisconsin who
maintains the basement of the Exclusive Company on state street, he
bills himself as a classical specialist. I have never had a better
experiance browsing classical music and he was such a wealth of
knowledge. I believe his name is C.S. Lund.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

granted, there is rough trade in London as well, as well as the CD factory
which I think has the best collection of anything rock related, and staff
that can speak in full sentences. which is always a bonus.


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

And Rough Trade just opened or is about to open a new store at Truman
Brewery. Wasn’t open when I was there in July. I spend a lot of time
in the Rough Trade below slam city in Neal’s Yard. Not sure if that
location remains. They always have the most diverse selection of
british hip-hop.

Later Jeff will probably gush about Black Market.

If either of you are ever in Waterbury, CT Brass City Music (waterbury
produced the most brass in the country in the 19th century), is one of
the more entertaining record stores in New England.

I guess I could go on and on about this.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:39 PM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

the trumann brewery location is open and huge!!! Slam Jam used the space
downstairs for a few other bits and bobs, nothing too crazy.


From: Jeff
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

BLACK MARKET… NOTHING LIKE IT! HANDS DOWN.


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

I could never have predicted that response.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:46 PM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

saying that, there used to be a local store in warsaw, and this is before
poland had a copyright law, where you could rent CD’S for like an hour and
tape that shit right there, which was pretty dope.


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

Amazing! The library at University of Wisconsin used to buy any cd
that was requested by a student. Similar thing, slightly more descrete
bootlegging.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:49 PM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

oh, I do like that approach. very clever of them. not something you would
expect from a higher education facility.


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

Apart from New Glarus brewing company it was one of the best
discoveries of my undergraduate life.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 1:57 PM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

i would have to say that the best discovery I made at College is that
regardless how plastered you were, you’d still get laid just by mentioning
you are at the same school that Damien hirst went to. England. what can I
say. you gotta love that place.


From: Nick
Date: Nov 27, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

Sadly Heisman trophy winner Ron Dayne does not have the same effect.

At Jeff’s school I hear you have to pretend you are actually enrolled
somewhere else to pull.


From: Jeff
Date: Nov 27, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

i just pretended to be a mechanic. Women love mechanics. They know
their tools well.


From: Steven
Date: Nov 27, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: AW: Rolling Stone ads – Hip Hop or Metal.

in a bruce springsteen sort of way I can almost see that


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